【中田敦彦 vs DaiGo】カードゲーム「XENO」論理vs心理の頂上バトル〜前編〜

 

 

I've got the feeling that you just got
some high number…
Nakata) Thank you for joining us today
DaiGo) Thank you for inviting me
We'll use a luxury set of XENO cards today,
which has a leather case and is brand new
How often do you play card games?
Not very often
Actually, not many people want to play games with me
I love playing games
like Jinroh (Werewolf game), on a TV show,
no one gets excited to play with me
after they realize that they can hardly defeat me
because you're too good at it
I don't think the program wants me to be in the show more than 3 times in a row
Wow, you're incredible
It's like a story that a boxing champion
who has no opponent to fight with
because he's way stronger than others
Poor me
Your situation is something like that, I guess
[Instructions]
・Use 18 cards (1-8 are two each, 9&10 are one each)
・Hold a card from the deck
・Draw another card and add it to your card
・Pick either one and put it face up on the table
・The other player must follow its effect
・When no cards are left in the deck, the player with a higher number must win
・When one player can drop the other player out of the game with his/her card's effect, the game ends
Take a card
[The one with a higher number plays first]
Flip it
Mine is 4, yours is 7
So, you play first, Daigo
N) Let's get started
D) OK
I've been thrilled to play this card game with you
Would it be okay if I call this match
"The logicalist (logical person) vs The mentalist "?
No problem
Great
First to 3 points wins
The one who wins 3 times first is the winner
Perfect
It'll be a battle with our pride on the line
I see
Starting with the lowest number in order
Boy
[The first card of boy (1:Revolution)'s effect is invalid]
Scholar (7:Selection)
[Scholar (7: Selection):
In his next turn, draw three cards from the deck,
choose one and put the rest back to the deck]
I want a good one
Ok, in case that you get a good one,
I'll protect myself with this maiden (4: Guarding)
Nice
I'll take three cards first
[Maiden (4: Guarding/Cancelling out any effect)]
Let me see…
I'll return two of them and please shuffle them
What I do is…
using a Noble (6:Showdown),
but it gets invalid because of your card (4:Protection)
I see
N) [Noble (6:Showdown)]
D) [Maiden (4:Protection, cancelling out any effect)]
You're just wasting your Noble, does it mean that the other card you have isn't good for a showdown?
Oh, wow
However, I don't think that you waste your Noble
just to keep a useless card, either…
I wonder why you did this…?
You've just done it for no reason
because it's just the beginning?
I don't think you're just taking a gamble…
You sound too smart from the beginning
It makes me excited
There must be a reason, I think
You're observing every single action of mine…
you're great
Anyway, now I can see what you have with this
[Fortune teller (3: Seeing through)]
Ok, I see
That's the way it is
So, of course
now I use this one (3: Fortune teller)
Let me see your card
It's scary
It is
I guess nothing good will happen to me
when you have that card
Let me see…
First, you used your Scholar and pick one out of three…
but I don't think it was a Noble,
because it's hard to believe that you could make the decision to waste its effect in that short time
So, I think you originally had a Noble (6)
and….
so…
There's no useful information from it?
You're right
Yeah, it's hard to figure it out
But I think I can find when you have some high number from your attitude
So, now I'll use this
You do it now?
[Soldier (2:Investigation) Eliminate a player
by finding out his/her card's number in hand]
You can kill me if you find out my number
I know
Could you take a peek at your card?
Ok, I see
I did
I don't think it's 9 or 10 though
I really don't think so
Well…what is it…?
The card you hold just came from the deck,
so, there's nothing obvious from the information so far
Every number has some possibility, except for 3
Yeah, it's true
Both of 3s on the table
Something less possible are 1, 2, 4, 6, and 7,
because we've played each of those cards so far
I see
2 is such a killer item
when the mentalist uses it
It's true
I guess you have 5
Yeah, my intuition tells me it's 5…
I guess it's not 9 or 10 at least
because it would change your attitude
if you have one of those high numbers
I really don't think it's 9 or 10…
I think it must be 5 or 8
I'm wondering which one
Which one?
It's 8
Amazing
You're scary
My goodness…
It's not very difficult once you learn
how to find some clues during a game
It's not fair that the mentalist uses 2,
because he gets the right number for sure
Yeah, I like 2
It could be more useful to win than 9 or 10
Ok..ok, I understand…your ability
It's unbelievable
Wow…you did it
I can't beleive this…
How did you know it?
When I said 5 first, you looked kind of happy,
so, I thought that wasn't it
But there was less possibility
that it was a smaller number than 5
However, I knew it wasn't 9 or 10, either
It shouldn't be 9 or 10, and not less than 5, either
It means that it must be 6, 7, 8
I had 6 in hand and there is another 6 on the table
No chance for 6 and the rest of the numbers are 7 or 8
We didn't have both of 8s yet, so 8 has more chance
That's why I said 8
When you narrowed down to two choices,
did you believe that it was 8?
Yes, I did
Obviously,
you could read my mind
Ok, you play first
D) Ok
N) It's 5
Wow, your first card is the Death
[The Death (5:Infectious Disease) Having the other player draw one more card from the deck and discard the one you choose without seeing what the cards are]
Wait a second
The Death (5) plus the mentalist is perfectly a bad combination for me, isn't it?
Yeah, you sound right
But this card doesn't have the power
to kill you right away
No, it doesn't
Let me see…
I don't know what good questions are at this moment
but did you get a good card that you want to keep now?
No, I didn't
Are you sure?
No
Which one is better for you?
This?
No, this one
Is it?
Is this better?
Yes
But I think this one is a good one for you
Hey, Daigo
Excuse me, Daigo…!
What is this?!
What is this?!
What did you do?
I've started understanding how to read your mind
Only when you have a large number like 9 or 10,
Your attitude is slightly different
So, you think that you know what I'm thinking?
Yeah, kind of
I doubt it
I don't believe what you just said.
Alright
Anyway, when 10 the Hero is killed by a card, I have to discard the other card as well
However, the card you used wasn't 9 the Emperor, so I can go back to the game with the reincarnation card
This game still continues
I see
It's my turn
I'll draw three cards after you
OK
[Scholar (7: Selection) In his next turn, draw three cards from the deck, choose one and put the rest back to the deck]
Alright, I see
In this case, maybe you don't need to mind three cards any more because of my card
You've got a scary one again
[Soldier (2:Investigation) Eliminate a player
by finding out his/her card's number in hand]
A miracle won't happen again
It wasn't a miracle, though
Oh-oh…
It's interesting
Ok…what is it…
You decided to use 7 this time, it probably means that…
you got a larger number than 7 as the reincarnation card
Or you're simply trying to getting more information,
I guess
Or it's very useful card,
which is worth keeping
You decided it very quickly
You talk alot
What is it….?
on the other way around,
if it's 9, you could have used it earlier, but you didn't
So…
Is it by any chance 9?
Who knows…
It would be surprising if it's 9
but I don't think it's 9…
Ok
I think I should follow the simplest theory
It's 6
No
You've survived
Ok, but there's one more 2 to come
It's not 6…
I didn't expect that it exhausts me so much
I'll return two of those
You chose it very carefully
Yes, I did
Is there any reason?
Yes, it is
Of course it is when it's a difficult decision
It's time for me to put you to the sword
I wanted that card…!
Offense is the best defense
True
Of course, it's more important for me
to prevent you from having this
You're right
It's exciting
No chance for 10 and 2…
There're 1,7 and 5, one each on the table
Right
You forgot one more huge hint to mention,
I said 6 earlier, but if I had it,
I wouldn't have said your number was 6
You're right
So, it shouldn't be 6
Maybe…who knows…
It sounds you're trying manipulating me
Maybe I'm trying confusing you
by talking so much to you
Rather, I'm being relaxed
because I know it's not that easy for you to find out my number since there're still many choices, 1, 5, 7 and 6
I'd really like to get the answer right
I think I should think logically
if I'm not good at thinking psychologically
Now, I'm wondering why you told me it was 6…
I think you didn't want me to have 6…
Wasn't it 10 was it?
You said "I wouldn't have said 6 if I have 6" but
actually you seem to make me choose 6
with the information
5 and 2…
Those are on the table
According to your personality
I think you'd discard 7 right away when you have it
You'd do the same with 1
The card that you play first with was 5…it is a big hint, that's what I'm guessing…
I don't think it's 1,2,3 or 4
you would have discarded 7 earlier if you had it
I guess it's 8 or 9
Wow…
Good guess!
8 or 9…
Probabilistically speaking, 8s are two,
but 9 is just one
Am I correct?
Yes, you are
What I'm saying is right;
8s are two and 9 is just one
Then, why don't you say it's 8?
Or you can say it's 9 if you'd like
I'm wondering why you rushed me just now?
You wanted me to answer the latter one?
You wanted me to answer it for sure
OK, I'm ready to say it
It's 8
…Beautiful!
This is the way the logical man wins
Fantastic
Yes!
I did it!
This is XENO…!
N) It's getting more exciting, isn't is?
D) Yeah…
We have a lot of time to enjoy playing games today
Oh, no…
No way to win
We don't know yet
No, no… I mean…
I've got a bad combination
Yeah…It happens sometimes
[Soldier (2:Investigation) Eliminate a player
by finding out his/her card's number in hand]
We've just started the game, so…
D) Yeah, I'll just take a guess
N) With no information at all
OK…
Judging from how you're holding your card,
I don't think you have a good card, either
It makes me feel like that
Wow, does this tell you like that?
Then, I should do this now
Let me see…
I guess it's one of the low numbers…
It's 3
No
I'll draw three cards after you
[Scholar (7: Selection) In his next turn, draw three cards from the deck, choose one and put the rest back to the deck]
It seems difficult…
Is your card one of the large numbers?
I don't know…
Here
[Death (5:Infectious Disease) Having the other player draw one more card from the deck and discard the one you choose without seeing what the cards are]
OK…
Judging from how you acted earlier,
I think I should take this one
Oops…
D) I wanted that one
N) We both wanted it
D) You're right
N) Shoot…!
But we didn't finish the game yet
Let's keep it going
That's too bad for me to loose both of 2s…
[Nakata just fogot drawing three cards and picking one of them in his turn, which was the 7:Scholar's effect]
Without 2s, actually, it's good for me…
…because you can hold my power down in the game
Your special ability is not available for now
It's Boy
No effect
[The first card of boy (1: Revolution)'s effect is invalid]
We've lost both of 2s, and one of 5s in this game…
I'm happy with the situation
that now you need to fight without some useful arms
Here
Ok, you can draw three cards after my turn
I can see your card
OK
Okay…
I think I should do this…
OK
Let me see…
Ok, then, let me do this
1 (Boy) for the second time is…
Public Execution
[The second-time Boy (1:Revolution) has the same power as the Emperor does, Public Execution]
I've tried confusing you, but I guess it didn't work
D) Wow…
N) It's a nightmare…
D) I know…but I should say let your 10 go…
N) Then, 9 is dead, too, because of Hero's death
Now, I'll get the reincarnation card
When Hero is killed by a card other than 9 the Emperor, the game still continues with the reincarnation card
You know, now, no 9 and 10 in this game
N) 8 is the largest number
D) Wow, that is the most tricky one
N) Right
You have
8…?
N) Would you show me your card?
D) Oh…wow…
D) No, I do not have that
N) Oh, you don't…ok
Ok… now you know what I have, so…
N) Showdown
D) Yes
But, you know, I know whether you have a card that is 8 or a larger number as the information you told me earlier
You know what, DaiGo….
You have 8, don't you?
Maybe…
You know…
I have pride in being the game master of XENO…!
We've killed each other
It doesn't happen very often
I guess so
It's amazing that this happened
after we lost both 9 and 10…
8against 8
What a game…
It was unbelievable, wasn't it?
[Next show…Nakata struggles
with the psychological attacks from DaiGo-]
Wow, you're taking a while to make a decision,
that's good
I guess…
those cards must include some useful ones for sure
Or all cards are just useless
You may be right
My favorite way to win is investigating with 2
I don't believe
what you just said now
Would you like to exchange it?
This finish isn't gonna be anything to write home about. Are you okay with that?
It sounds quite scary
Fine, it's also the way XENO is
I see
Excuse me…?
You have 10, don't you?
You were thinking for a while before putting down your 7
Let me ask the reason with this
No, I don't want you to do that
It's 6
Ok, here's the perfect ending that you'd like
Public Execution
I think you have 10
Oh, boy…DaiGo…
I thought I was gonna lose…

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